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, the president put a trillion dollar in changes, medicaid, medicare and changes that nancy pelosi and speaker don't want to see. the and white house's defense is look, if the republicans are not going to play ball on revenue and tax increases they're fnot going to put the spending cuts on the table. this started out as a discussion about cutting the debt, cutting the deficit and now what's going to happen is th smallest plans on the table are going to-- are not really going to cut the deficit in the long run and don't have major spending cuts and i noticed at one point when he was asked about the sequester, not just the tax side, but the automatic spending cuts about to kick in. he said if we raise revenue by the wealthy paying more, that would be sufficient to turn off this request or what's called the automatic spending cuts and that's what republicans have been suggesting if he raises more revenue raising taxes on the rich, he's not going to put it towards the deficit, but the president kind of suggested that today. >> and a question from the beginning and it's your segment, go ahead. >> i've
ago, nancy pelosi exiting the meeting with president obama and the republican leaders as well as harry reid and tim geithner e we have bearn boehner who left, nancy pelosi waiting for her suv and she'll take off. she won't speak, she won't come in front of a camera. we're waiting to see if the other lawmakers inside come and let us know what's going on. rich edison is outside the white house right now. >> reporter: house speaker john boehner, and nancy pelosi just left the white house so the meeting has wrapped up. still waiting to see if the senate leaders come out. an official saying the president opened the meeting up by offering essentially what he started negotiations with, so no word if they made progress on anything further to get this resolved. if not, it's bad news considering this is a pposal that republicans say could not have pass the house, probably not pass the senate if you have to go with of say 60 vote threshold. >> the fact both the house leaders left without taking a microphone, is that a bad sign? >> we may have lost his audio. again, we'll let you know nancy pelosi
or groceries. i am real sure it won't be something nancy pelosi or harry reid said. so no matter what happened in your life in 2012, i hope the memories that linger and last are all about the love of god and your family because mine sure will be. [applause]. >> so what happens to obama care if half of the states in the country won't set up the health care exchanges to support the program? i will ask the georgia governor next. >> sign up for my facebook page and follow me on twitter. you can find a link to that and more at mike into i obama -- >>> obama care is set to go into affect in 2014. it is not surprising some governors chose to run health insurance exchanges under the president's controversial reform law. but what is surprising is how many. 25 states, half of the country , are saying, sorry mr. president. we will not help you enforce this flawed piece of legislation. one of the governors saying that is nathan diel who joins us now. it is a pleasure to have you here. >> thank you, mike. >> this is kind of surprising that 25 states, half of the states in this country, have said they will
house. president barack obama, speaker of the house john boehner, house minority leader nancy pelosi, harry reid and mitch mcconnell. can they make a deal or can they do their jobs or is this just more political drama? >> we want an agreement. >> the count down is midnight. the start of a new year. >> we are going over the cliff because frankly i believe it's what the president wants. >> the american people are waiting for the ball to drop, but it's not going to be a good drop. >> but we have no takers. >> every republican, every democrat ought to be here. >> the phone never raining. >> they should negotiate a plan. they shouldn't have the mine are in plan, they should have the biglan. >> here we are five days from the new year, and we might finally start talking. >> the republicans are sitting there with a nuclear weapon. they have the debt ceiling coming up. they can use that as part of this negotiation. >> what is going on here? >> the president called me and probably called others last night. my impression is he would like to see if we can move forward. >> you can't legislate wit
be a political charade by the president and harry reid and nancy pelosi. i hope it actually is the beginning of a deal because if we don't get it done now, we need to go and make sure that things get done so we don't raise taxes and taxes aren't raised for all these americans that are looking at it come january 1st. >> why did he fly all the way back from hawaii and cut his vacation short if he's eager to go over the cliff in is that part of his charade. >> if he wants to actually blame other people for his lack of leadership he has to appear, at least, to be coming back to find a solution. if the president was really interested in the level of the debt we have in this country, the $16 trillion, we would have had a budget passed in the senate sometime in the last three years. he proposed a budget and none of the democrats even voted for it. it got 0 votes. i don't think the president is focused where we ought to be focused which is the spending. we have a spending problem. he's fixated on tax rates that only give you about seven days of what the government spends. >> he didn't get any votes
, but it's to nancy pelosi's point we're going to find out and i hope we like it. a lot of taxes associated with obamacare. you mentioned the medical device issue, a lot of these companies, by the way, medical device companies have been laying off workers right now. and that is, if this impacts, by the way, everyone, takes away from research and development, which will take away from life saving innovation and it's just, again, the very tip of the iceberg. ultimately, there's going to be a whole lot of taxes that just opens the gate for. this is just the beginning. >> ben, even if you look at action taken by the medical device makers, there's already damage that's been done by the tax increases built into this health care law, has it got? >> well, the damage is built in, but on the other hand good built into, too. there are people who are very poor who won't be able to get health insurance and not very, between medicaid and middle class and we'll be able to get health insurance, or some, overall, obviously, i don't like the bill. i don't think any sensible person would like the obamacare bi
effort the hail hary pass was the house of representatives saying fine let's take nancy pelosi and chuck schumer's bill that they proposed this summer to extend the tax rates on every household and every small business a million dollars and below, allow them to go up on the million dollars and above which is the current law on january 1, let's do that. that ought to be something we can agree on. let me add this. when we he voted on our bill in the house this summer it was a clean extension which was an extension for are everyone in america not only did every republican vote for that but 19 democrats did as well. so this is why it is so frustrating for those in the house is that now we are close to the cliff. >> greta: and frustrating -- >> and we can't even get a single democrat to join with us. >> greta: if you think you are frustrated try the american people as they watch what is going on. congressman, thank you, sir. good luck, sir. >> call the senate and get them to act. we can't negotiate with nothing. >> greta: i don't think they would listen to me. thank you, congressman. straight
boehner and nancy pelosi. if they can't work this out and we go over the cliff it means smaller pay checks automatic spending cuts and according to some economists possibly another recession. molly henneberg tracking developments tonight at the white house. what are you hearing? >> hi, harris. senate republican leader mitch mcconnell confirmed it and the white house made it official. there will be a hearing here tomorrow according to a white house aide. it will be on the schedule that the president will talk fiscal cliff with those four top congressional leaders that you mentioned, harris. the president returned to washington today. he cut his hawaiian vacation short to get back to the white house for any possible last minute fiscal cliff meetings and it appears there will be one tomorrow. harris? >> well, what kind of response is the president getting from lawmakers at this point? >> well, senate republicans say they are willing to listen to any ideas the president has as to how to find a way forward. here is more. >> last night i told the president we would be happy to look at whatever h
what's my plan b? his plan b is a plan nancy pelosi embraced a few months ago. boehner couldn't get enough of his right flank onboard and pelosi was whipping votes against her own plan among democrats to embarrass boehner. so the politics worked out well for pelosi. it's a total mess, dysfunctional and both parties are not covering themselves in glory. >> got to leave it there. always good to see you. >> thanks. >> to ed henry in honolulu where the president is set to depart tonight. we got breaking news from the speaker and i believe -- they said we have a couple deals on the table. it's your turn, senate. >> yeah, eric, that's where the ball is going now. but what i think the speaker and maybe majority leader eric cantor are leaving out is the reason all eyes turned to the senate is the speaker can't get the job done thursday on plan b. plan a is essentially the big deal, the $4 trillion debt plan. i was speaking a short time ago to a white house official that happened they believe the president moved halfway towards the republicans starting at only want to go raise taxes on $250,
. the president, john boehner, nancy pelosi, harry reid, mcconnell, you don't need his support because the democrat controlled center. it is a sit doesn't have a -- >> mcconnell is very important because in the senate, you need a super majority to pass. a reason why i think if there's some kind of a deal, and i'm not that optimistic, why it has to start in the senate is you need republicans to buy in, even a little bit, in order to send any measure to the house. so by definition, to get 60 votes, you need republicans on it. that's enough to call whatever the deal is, bipartisan, which may make it easier on the house. as i said, i'm not that optimistic. >> trace: why are you not optimistic? >> part of it is structurele. house members got back at 6:30 sunday night. what if the bad weather comes that's predicted. unless a framework is hammered out that people could agree to, even a stopgap measure, there's not a lot of hours left to get everything down. a realistic deadline is january 3, none, when the new congress comes in because as we just heard, the impact of the fiscal cliff in terms
to go up. howard dean was making the rounds for months, saying that tax rates need to go up. nancy pelosi thinks the tax rates should go up on everybody. does the president have the political will to go against his own party? what we are seeing so far, he is not. we read his first offer, when he sat down with mr. boehner, mr. boehner said here's $800 billion for revenue and what do i get for that? the president allegedly said, that's for free. that's not evidence 6 somebody who wants a deal who, wants to lead. >> eric: what would you like to see? >> i would like to see a clean deal. i would like to see something that fixes the problem. keep in mind, one of the things that frustrates me is that the fiscal cliff is getting all of this attention, when it's real. i don't want to diminish it. but it's a drop in the bucket. the tax increases that the president wants that represent 8 cents of every dollar of debt. we are not dealing with the overall problem. that's what i would like to see. something that brings as much attention to the $16 trillion debt, as it does to the relatively smal
in congress shooting spitballs. >> greg: legitimate criticism is not a spitball. nancy pelosi didn't bother to read it. that is not a spitball if you flow a large portion of the economy going to government that do nothing right. that is not a spitballle just why do republican governors say we're not going to do this. let the fed do this. they said we don't like big government. they should control it. to me this is just like we don't likebe you guys. >> andrea: they can opt out if they don't want to opt out. to me, we have to throw spitballs. a lot of promises were made. taxes wouldn't go up. premiums wouldn't go up. keep your doctor. all of those things not true. i think we will be talking about this story and this decision for years and decades come. just i agree. >> kimberly: this show next year at this time. >> andrea: count it. >> juan: get out of the hot tub before i shrivel. >> greg: hope and bo on "days of our lives" and on and off again. it spent a lot of time thinking about it. to me, the big story that changed the election was mitt dropping the ball in the third debate. it was abo
second proposal was nancy pelosi's proposal she offered in may of this year of doing tax cuts on people of one million dollars and above, that are one million and above. >> and now plan c now. >> now, now proposal-- >> for the republicans to get-- >> no, he was not and that's his failure dealing with his party, but as for negotiating, boehner has put forth many things. it's president obama that needs to take a page out of the play book of clinton to be able to move more to the middle. >> kelly: okay. and core of both of your arguments, here is what we're seeing on capitol hill as well, members of both sides of the aisle can't agree to disagree on things, there's no common ground. here is the way that people's business is being conducted so far as we've seen from mike emanuel's report. democrat leaders are hammering out deal they can pass and hopefully angela and mark, he see it get passed in the house before the automatic tax increases and deep spending cuts actually go into effect on january 1st, 20113, which is now some 48 hours away. do they have enough time to get it done? >> yes. >
necessary to run the programs he wanted and nancy pelosi tells me there are members in her caucus wants taxes to go up and howard dean not shy saying that taxes should go up on everyone for months. there's a major part of the democrats who want the rates to go up and are public about it. the question, does the president have the interest to stand town that part of the party or does he want taxes to go up and blame the republican. >> harris: first time since 1970 congress is working between christmas and new years. how do you negotiate with someone who is determined basically to see is fail and see us go over into extreme high taxes? >> we don't and one of the most insightful things i've read in the the last couple of weeks, the dialog between mr. boehner and the president off the election and mr. boehner put 800 billion of revenues on the table and talking about negotiations and the president says i get that for free, i'm not giving you anything for 800 billion dollars. and washington is a rumor mill, as you can probably mante imagine, and we've heard that the change cpi would be off th
the debt ceiling coming up. what excuse will they come up? >> they will not cut spending. harry reid, nancy pelosi, chuck schumer, they are not going to cut spending. >> sean: how about the republicans? >> i hope the next time the republicans don't get rolled like they will be rolled the next 48 hours. >> sean: in one sense, joe, i got to give your president a lot of credit. he went out there, went out campaigning. he does a really good job blaming the republicans. he was able to frame the debate about taxes against the rich. not on his reckless spending. as a politician, he is pretty -- he is pretty amazing. in terms of governing, he is horrible. this is not good long-term for this country. >> well, look, the president was very clear in two campaigns now about raising taxes on the top 2%. he was clear. and he and romney had that thing -- had that out. and he won on that platform, sean. i mean he fair and square he won on it. and he is going to make -- >> sean: so if the republicans. >> 2.5 in spending cuts. right now it is one-to-one or less. he didn't keep his promise on that he, joe trip
rating is lower than that of nancy pelosi, who is a vampire, i actually think. it's 51% boehner unfavorable and pelosi 50%. juan, you said something earlier you have been hearing that boehner is safe. i've actually been hearing the opposite. i like john boehner, i think he has a tough situation on his hands. he's trying to heard cats. i don't agree what he did the other day, why he had put a bill on the floor he doesn't have support for. you think he won't hold on? >> no, i think he will hold on. i don't know if it's coming but at the moment i don't think there's enough time before january 3rd to really line up. what happened to john boehner, i thought -- >> and he thought he had the votes. >> his troops abandoned him. >> ken next mccarthy should go down for that. he's the whip. he should know how many votes he has. >> no, he works for boehner. >> but he goes back with the information about how many votes he has. that was a mess. >> but the whole dynamics didn't make sense. it goes back to something eric said. everybody on the far right said why am i going to put a vote in place
he heard from any democrat, president, senator reid, nancy pelosi, anybody in about a month in terms of talking about the fiscal cliff. so everyone has sort of delayed really facing all of th up against the deadline now, jon. jon: that seems clear. ed henry at the white house there. ed, thank you. stay on it for us. for more on this let's bring in the editor of "campaigns & elections" magazine, shane deapril. campaigns and elections might be appropriate here because some say there is a lot of political posturing going on. you have said the feeling in washington it might actually be better to go over the cliff and come back and negotiate. why? >> yeah. now, this is of course purely political campaign calculation here, tossing aside the nation's fiscal health frankly. for both side i think there is good argument to be made for congressional leaders, democratic leaders and republican leaders in particular, there may be less political risk here actually if we do go over the cliff and figure out a solution very quickly afterwards. if you go back to what happened with plan b, speaker boehn
but remember something about the actual threshold. chuck schumer and nancy pelosi, this summer suggest ad million dollars be the mark for which people begin to pay higher tax rates, not 2 a $50,000. so i think the president definitely stretched his definition of millionaires and billionaires by putting 250 rate income level as that rate but he is getting extension of unemployment benefits he wants as well. so he certainly outmaneuvered us on this one but the real irony here that this whole process was born out of deficit reduction. now the reports are it might add to the deficit. that is counter intuitive. gregg: or at least the 800 plus billion in new revenue would be wiped out by $800 billion into l new spending. it is dead-even and not a nickel goes to deficit reduction. kirsten, if that happens, won't the american people say, hey, wait a minute, wasn't this whole thing supposed to be about reducing the deficit? >> no, they won't. this is fundamental fun political point the republicans seem incapable of understanding. for all their claims this is what the country is obsessed with this
a bit, talking to the top four congressional leaders. speaker boehner, nancy pelosi, mitch mcconnell, and harry reid. earlier today, the senate majority leader sounded frustrated with the republicans in congress. >> nothing can move forward unless speaker boehner and mitch mcconnell are willing to come up with a bipartisan plan to participate. speaker boehner is unwilling to negotiate. we have not heard a word since neither mcconnell. nothing has happened. >> i should note that senator reid was due for a news conference later this afternoon. that has since been canceled. perhaps the senate majority leader has decided to do his talking behind closed doors and hammer out a deal. greg: filled with metaphors, no doubt. what a republican saying about the status of the fiscal cliff negotiations? reporter: they have been pretty quiet so far. we know the speaker of the house and the republican leadership team in the house is due for a conference call with members that are still back in their home districts later this hour. we expect senate republican leader mitch mcconnell to be on the senat
's point, look, democrats have their own up issues internally. nancy pelosi leader democrats in the house and harry reid, leader of senate democrats essentially saying entitlements are off the table when we know entitlements are the biggest drivers of debt. gregg: there may be a reason for that. marjorie, senator john barosso chairman of the republican policy committee put his finger on it. he believes the president is eager to go over the cliff for political reasons because he senses victory at the bottom of the cliff. those are his words verbatim and, you know, then the president gets to punish republicans. and he also might get more money in a for taxpayers, from taxpayers to expand the government. what about that? >> well i have a really hard time believing anybody, republicans or democrats would win from going over the cliff. talking about potentially putting country in recession, what it would do to the markets. here's the deal. these type of negotiations what we lost a $4 trillion opportunity when boehner and obama were at the table having talks prior to the holiday. what we're loo
. number two, plan b was really the idea of chuck schumer and nancy pelosi as recently as in this summer. to set the threshold on incomes to a million dollars versus 250,000, allow those tax rates for a million and above go up, the president talked about taxing millionaires and billionaires, that would be right, and now let the rest of the country enjoy the extension of the full bush tax cuts which i think we now even see democrats acknowledging have meaningful -- gregg: basil, if it doesn't work, the president's going to have egg on his face, right? >> no, not at all. gregg: come on. >> the president has come back with a compromise. the people that have egg on their face are republicans. they've taken intractable positions where as the president has made concessions, boehner cannot show leadership to get anything passed through his congress right now. and, quite frankly, they're being sort of held by the tea party against some extraordinary positions that they have to take at a time when the paradigm has shifted. so i think the country is recognizing that the country -- gregg: looking a
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